Tuesday, December 21, 2010

View From The Other Side

 

Recently, I engaged in a series of emails with a man who believes Sarah Palin is fit to be President. I thought everyone might like to read his perspective. It is a classic example of why we can’t give up trying to expose the skeletons in Sarah’s closet.

His identity has been removed from the correspondence. No other parts of his emails were modified.

The emails I received from this man are in bold red.

My replies are in bold blue.

Also please be sure to look at the bottom of this post. I have posted a picture of a guy I am trying to identify. I know I have seen this person before and he definitely is a friend or relative of the Palins. Please email me if you know anything about this person.

Dear Blade,

In you blog you wonder if Sarah Palin is fit to hold public office. We now have a man-child as POTUS whose background was teaching, Illinois state representative who voted present most of the time, was a community organizer, was in the US Senate for 18-months and ran for President. If such a person is fit for public office, Palin should also be. At least she was a governor.

Thank you,

 

Hi  - No politician is perfect. They are fallible human beings like anyone else. The problem with Sarah Palin is that she demonstrates traits that indicate she may be mentally ill. My blog focuses mainly on the possibility that she faked a pregnancy and is using a child for political gain. Can I prove it? No. Does available information, much of it straight from Sarah Palin's own mouth, point to it being true? Yes. However, even if Sarah is Trig's biological mother her actions during her pregnancy and delivery of Trig show she has poor judgment and little if any common sense. A woman who has any degree of concern for an unborn child she is carrying would put that child's well being before anything. She supposedly awoke at 4am CST on April 17, 2008 with contractions and leaking fluid. She claims that she talked to her Dr. and they agreed it would be okay for her to rest till around noon, give a speech and then board a flight back to Alaska. The prudent course of action would have been to go to one of the nearby hospitals in Dallas to be examined. There was plenty of time for her to do just that and still make that speech if everything was okay. Any unborn child deserved that much concern. Now add in the fact that the child Sarah Palin was supposedly carrying had been diagnosed with Down Syndrome. Do you see my point? If she would take such risks with her own child's health not to mention her own, she is not fit to make decisions that affect our whole nation. Just think about her actions and ask yourself if they were sensible. If you're married and your pregnant wife wanted to do as Sarah Palin did would you go along with it?

Sincerely,

Blade

 

Hey Blade,

Thanks.

Never investigated.

It is purely speculation, but some think also that Obama was born outside the United States. It cannot be proven but one must wonder. Like John Kerry's military records, if Barack would just settle the question and release his birth certificate, the matter would be closed.

I do not know why you are worried about what Sarah Palin does in the future.If she decides that a run for President is in her future, that will be a tough road as there are many other choices for the Republicans to make.

Hillary Clinton could have also been elected in 2008. She had a good point- what would the man-child do at 300AM to hear that a US ship had been hit by an Iranian missile. Call Bill Clinton like he did on Friday because "Michelle my bell" was calling him to come to her aid at XMas party.
Get over your Sarah Palin derangement syndrome.

At least she can hunt and clean fish.

Hi - First, I do not have any syndrome. The questions surrounding Trig Palin's birth are valid and relevant to Sarah Palin's fitness to hold office. Whether or not she gave birth to the child, her actions demonstrate that she lacks judgment at best and is an attempted murderer at the worst. How could a pro-life woman take the chances she took with her unborn child's life? If she was pregnant with Trig it seems she would have been extremely cautious since by her own admission in Going Rogue she had suffered two previous miscarriages. Any way you look at her actions, something is just wrong. Faking a pregnancy is less evil than attempting to miscarry by taking all kinds of foolish risks while pregnant but doing either one makes her unfit to lead this country.

Do some research on Sarah Palin for yourself. You might be surprised at what you find.out.

Blade

 

Blade

Will do.

 

At this point, I expected no further emails from this person but they continued.

 

Dear Blade,

From what I can determine, there was no public criticism against Palin until John McCain made her his VP candidate. When it was found that she was a conservative and even a NRA member, the left wing press and others seem to go crazy. It is hard for me to understand why there is so much hate and possibly fear against this woman. With her run with John McCain, her book and the TV reality show on Alaska, she seems to have become very successful. Look at Hillary Clinton-"Slick Willy" made it possible for her to be financially successful. I do not think Hillary has as much fun in life as Palin but she does have some financial assets. I cannot imagine Hillary on a hike, in a boat, shooting a 12-gauge shotgun, camping with children and cleaning salmon.

It seems that most want to criticize her for traveling by commercial air from Dallas to Alaska on April 17, 2008. She and her husband made a trip to Dallas for her to give keynote address for an Republican Governors energy conference. The baby was due in mid-May, 2008 and airlines do allow women to fly before the 36th week. Alaska Air leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor. Early on April 17, Palin had some contraction and fluid discharge. She called Dr. Cathy Baldwin-Johnson at Mat-Su Medical Center in Alaska. Since Palin had four previous children, she was aware of an actual contraction. Maybe this was a false

contraction and Palin was not too concerned and wanted to stay to give the noon keynote address. Her husband Todd was with her also and must have concurred.

She gave the speech and boarded Alaska Air in the afternoon for the 8-hour trip back home. The Alaska Air associate,Claren Boren, who checked her in did not notice any signs of distress. Palin was also in contact with her doctor at the start and the changeover in Seattle. She arrived back in Alaska at 1030 and when to Mat-Su with arrival at 1130PM. Dr. Baldwin-Johnson stated that she had to "induce" labor at that time. If she was indeed having real contractions in Dallas, why did the doctor have to induce labor?The baby was not born until 630AM on April 18.

It seems to me that to base all criticism on Palin using this situation is a weak opinion especially to state that she would be unfit to hold high office because she chose to fly home instead of having the child in Texas. Maybe she and Todd wanted to have all their children born in Alaska. Who knows for sure but it is pushing the envelope too soon to say that she is unfit for office because of this decision. She traveled to Texas one month before the baby was due. She was governor of Alaska and was invited by Rick Perry,Texas governor, to give a speech on energy to others. I think she is qualified to talk about energy as Alaska is full of it and she has managed it as well as the previous governors of Alaska.

I do not know what her future plans are for public office. As far as I am concerned, she has more experience than the current man-child and he was elected with no experience except in speech making with a teleprompter and a couple of book memories. I still do not understand all the hate out there on the left. Is it insecurity or the fact that Palin does not represent the feminists policies? She certainly has better looks than the ones on the other side!

Your friend,

 

Hi - I want to make my position plain. For many reasons, I don't believe Sarah Palin was pregnant in 2008. People in Alaska had doubts about Sarah Palin's pregnancy long before she was nominated for VP. At the same time there were also rumors that Bristol was pregnant and that pregnancy couldn't have been with Tripp because it was too early. Here is a link where you can read the discussions and see the date for yourself. The discussion was started on  08 Apr 2008 although some of the replies were obviously posted after her nomination.

http://www.reddit.com/comments/6f3nq/coverup_alaska_gov_palin_r_announced_she_was/c03o1ma?sort=old

 

But despite the evidence to the contrary, for argument's sake, let's say she was pregnant in April 2008. One would think that a pro-life woman who had a history of 4 previous term pregnancies, 2 miscarriages and carrying a baby which she knew had Down Syndrome, would be extremely cautious. I suppose blind ambition could account for her putting her political aspirations above the well being of her unborn child but when she awoke with contractions and leaking fluid there was no reason for her not to go to a nearby emergency room to be examined. Talking to a doctor on the phone is no substitute for a physical exam and she had plenty of time to be examined before her speech. If everything was okay then she would have been given the okay to deliver her address. If she or the baby were in distress wouldn't a pro-life woman who loved the child she was carrying value the baby's life above her political ambition?

You mention Ms. Boren's remark that Palin showed no sign of distress. Ms. Boren also said that the stage of Gov. Palin's pregnancy was not apparent. I find that odd since this picture has been touted as proof positive that Sarah was indeed pregnant. If I saw a woman with a belly like that I would know right away that the woman was very pregnant. Two links follow. The first contains Ms. Boren's statement. The second is a link to the picture of Sarah where she appears very pregnant.

.(I removed the links mentioned above from this post because they don’t fit the blog page correctly. The email continues below.)

Sarah took a very real risk of delivering on board the airplane since her membranes had ruptured even in the absence of contractions. Labor can progress rapidly, especially when a woman is in her 7th pregnancy and what woman, not to mention one supposedly quite religious, would want to risk having to expose themselves to strangers on a plane?

Another strange thing is that Sarah Palin chose to deliver at Mat-Su Regional Hospital which has no NICU and doesn't even allow twins to be born there except in an emergency. The Palins had to pass by or close to Providence Hospital in Anchorage to get to Mat-Su Regional. Providence has an NICU and Dr. Baldwin-Johnson had privileges there. Considering Trig's Down Syndrome and the fact that he was premature opting to deliver at a hospital which discourages high-risk deliveries is odd, to say the least. Wouldn't it have made more sense for Dr. Baldwin-Johnson to meet the Palins at the hospital in Anchorage?

Also, I can tell you from personal experience why labor was induced. Once the amniotic sac ruptures infection becomes a very real possibility for mother and baby. I experienced PROM (premature rupture of membranes) and even though I followed my Dr.'s instructions and went straight to the hospital my preemie son was born with Pneumonia. So while Sarah may not have been in active labor her water definitely broke. Had her amniotic sac not ruptured labor wouldn't have been induced because of the baby's prematurity. The Dr. would have tried to have the pregnancy continue for as long as possible since every day a fetus is in utero the better the outcome for the baby.

As I said in our previous correspondence, I feel faking a pregnancy is less evil than attempting to lose a baby by taking foolish risks while pregnant but her doing either makes her a non-viable political candidate, in my opinion. If she faked the pregnancy then she is capable of lying and acting out a charade of grand proportion. Yes, most politicians are liars to some degree but the level of deception needed to carry this through is exceptional. Would you want a President capable of that degree of deception? If she was indeed pregnant and took those foolish risks with her own life and the life of her unborn baby would you want someone that cold and calculating as President? I would be concerned that she wouldn't protect our country if she wouldn't protect herself and her unborn baby.

There are many things that point to her pregnancy being fake and the information is easily found doing Google searches on the subject. I guess we will have to agree to disagree about Sarah Palin.

Sincerely,

Blade

 

Blade,

Thanks for your reply. This woman seems to have hit a raw nerve with you. I still wonder why Sarah Palin causes so much concern on the left.

I am assuming that you are a liberal, left-leaning woman who votes for Democrats when there is a choice. Please correct me if this  assumption is not the case.

The rumors in August, 2008 about whether Trig was the child from Bristol were negated when Bristol had Tripp in December, 2008. Sarah Palin is the mother of Trig. I have watched some of the program, "Sarah Palin's Alaska". Trig seems to be doing very well despite the Down's Syndrome he was born with. There is much support from the family. Unlike a lot of "liberated feminists" who are strong believers in the "Rowe vs Wade" decision, at least Palin did not abort when it was determined that the fetus could have a birth defect.

I do not plan to support Sarah Palin for 2012 as I would prefer Romney, Gingrich Huckabee or Pawlenty. The current president is trying to radically change our republic to the worst where our freedoms will be hurt and the government becomes more involved in our lives. The present administration will try to bankrupt our economy unless a change is made in 2012.

If you are a supporter of Obama, I would like to hear why since you have such strong feelings about why Sarah Palin is unfit to hold that office. Let me hear why the man-child is so fit to run our country.

Merry Christmas,

 

Hi - I would say that I am a moderate. I do vote Democrat. I did back Obama only after the primary and like many have not been pleased with some of what he has done. However, I do think he was and is in an almost impossible situation. Things got bad before he was elected and it will take a long time for things to get better. I think this would be the case no matter who is in the White House.

Back to Palin. Actually, it is still possible that Bristol could be Trig's mother. Trig's birth certificate has never been seen so there is no proof that he wasn't born earlier. Even the April 18 birthdate doesn't preclude Bristol giving birth in December. Tripp could have been born prematurely. There was confusion when his birth was first announced. Different dates were given at the time and the announcement came via Sally Heath's sister who lives in Washington. Her name is Colleen Jones, if memory serves and she cold called People magazine and told them Tripp had arrived. It was a few days later before the Palins made any announcement and it was nearly two months before Tripp was seen. Seems strange that the proof that Bristol couldn't have birthed Trig in April was kept under wraps so long. Perhaps he was premature which would have made him proof of nothing so they had to wait to show him until he was bigger. There is also speculation that Bristol may not have been pregnant in fall 2008. It did seem a very convenient pregnancy.

There is also the possibility that someone other than Bristol but not Sarah is Trig's mother. I do think he is related to the Palins. I have to disagree about Sarah's mothering of Trig. I have watched her show on TLC each week it has aired. Sarah Palin has complete control over what is and isn't shown so naturally what you see will be favorable. Sarah has stated that Trig needs glasses and hearing aids and there is at least one photo where he's wearing them but in most pictures he is not. What is even more disturbing are photos from the Going Rogue book tour last year. There are several pictures of Trig inappropriately dressed. One is at night and most people are wearing coats, Sarah included. She is holding a barefoot Trig wearing a sweatshirt that is only partially covering his abdomen. There are other pictures of him outside not dressed for the weather. I do think that someone in the Palin household loves and cares for Trig when they can but I don't think that person is Sarah. I can send you links to those pictures if you're interested but really that is neither here nor there.

I am glad that you don't support Sarah but will you vote for her should she be the GOP candidate? I would hope before making a decision on that one you would dig a little deeper. Sarah has other skeletons in her closet, too.

Merry Christmas to you, too!

Blade

 

Blade,

You certainly are persistent in your dislike of Sarah. I do not believe any of the conspiracy theories about the birth of Trig and Tripp. I do not think the Palin's are smart enough to cover up that for this long. They had some man living next to them last summer trying to uncover more on them. Kind of sickening that someone from outside Alaska to move next door so that he could get more information. We shall wait on his report.

I do not think that Miss Sarah will be the GOP nominee in 2012. Too many others with more experience. They  also do not get so much attention in the press.

But if she does get the nod and runs against the man child, I will have to vote for her and her party. His kind of change is one that I do not believe in.

If you want to make a bet and set odds on the chances of Palin getting the nomination in 2012, let me know. She is 46-years old and has time to wait as she is making more money now than she would as president. The man child may not even run again if he gets the nutroots too upset. Then "Mr." Hillary Rodham comes into play. As James Carville said recently, Obama can give her one of his gonads and she will then have two.

 

Hi - This will be my final reply to you as I can see that you, as I, will not be swayed.

The Palins intelligence has very little to do with pulling off this grand charade. Bullying and intimidation is more their style. The man who moved in next door is writing a book about Sarah Palin. It would be hard to research her life from thousands of miles away. The man is author Joe McGinniss who at least does his own writing. Sarah's books were written by a ghostwriter and even her facebook and twitter decrees are written by someone else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McGinniss

By the way, the Palins owed the owners of the house next door for renovations they asked for when they rented the house themselves. The owner exacted a bit of revenge by seeking McGinniss out and offering him the house.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/05/28/2010-05-28_sarah_palins_neighbor_sought_out_journalist_joe_mcginniss_to_rent_out_house_for_.html

I am not a betting person but I sincerely hope that you are right about her not getting the GOP nomination in 2012 or ever, as far as that goes. I am very afraid that if she were to become President today's problems will seem miniscule compared to the mess she would make.

I still think she is backed by big money. People with nefarious purposes for wanting her in office. I don't know if you have read my post on that subject but here is the link if you're interested.

http://shesnohockeymom.blogspot.com/2010/11/sarah-palin-political-patsy.html

By the way, I may use portions of our discussion in a future post on my blog to show my readers the view from the other side. If I do decide to use any portion of our correspondence I will remove any
information identifying you.

Thanks for the lively debate and I wish you a Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year!

Blade

 

OK Blade,

We will end discussion of Miss Sarah. If I send anything to you in future, it will only be the 12 Cheesey Days of Christmas.

Good night and good luck.

So there you have it. Straight from a Republican voter. Even though this man doesn’t think Sarah will get the nomination and isn’t a big supporter of hers, he would still vote for her if she gets the nomination. I fear this might be the case with many other Republicans as well, which is why my mission to expose Sarah will continue.

Here is the picture I referred to above. Please help me identify him if you can.

 

1unknown

bladecatz@mail.com

Blade

 

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

You need to quell the insanity right away,
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Also, his/her talking points are right out of a memo--they're as boring as he/she is and it's not worth your trouble responding. The left doesn't dislike her, only reasonable, thinking, intelligent, honest and caring women and men dislike her.

Olivia said...

This guy has a whole truck full of red herrings that he is using to avoid examining the issues you bring up. Any legitimate point you make about her possible mental instability, unfitness for public office in general or lies that have been told only gets another fish thrown out changing the subject to distract from your point.

Anonymous said...

After reading this post, I clicked for you as a Favorite and will return as often as you post.
Palin has pulled so many crazies that the Giant One that Alerted Us All Across the USA is sometimes fighting for air. It was refreshing to read your focused responses. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

PS What's the "man child" stuff?

Blade said...

Anon@6:10 - I assume that he means President Obama exhibits childlike behavior. I disagree, of course. I think he is in a difficult situation but he is handling things better than the alternates would have done. Thanks for your replies.

Blade

Anonymous said...

Picture looks like that Gino guy the rumor mill says fathered Bristol's baby bump. -B

Ginger said...

You have been on my favorites list for some time. I sincerely believe you are the only blogger that has the intuition and the capability to continue Audrey and Bree's work!

Thanks for all you do.

Lauren said...

It's unfortunate to see someone so hell bent on remaining ignorant and uneducated that they would result to something as immature as "at least she has better looks than those on the left." I was unaware that beauty contests were apart of political campaigns. It's very clear that his information comes from FOX News and that alone annoys me. That "news" station is so filled with lies and manipulations (several of which they have even admitted to recently), and their brainless followers STILL believe them. It's unfortunate that these people, including this man, are in such desire to make the "man child" fail, that they can't even see that he's trying to help them have better lives.

Oh the right. It will be a good day when they finally become an extinct political group...

Anonymous said...

I didn't read all but the first email was filled with falsehoods about Obama's backgroundwhich you didn't seem to address.

Did you make him aware that Obama has an undergraduate degree in Political Science and a Harvard Law degree, graduating magna cum laude? It took Palin 5 colleges to get a journalism degree and she apparently learned nothing.

Obama practiced Constitutional Law & taught Civil Law (talk about perfect background) then was Senator of IL for 8 years before becoming a US Senator. He has a stellar background of success, accomplishments and hard work, yet he was maligned by the right as a "nobody".

Also, the "pallying around with terroists" crap that Palin kept screeching was about a professional relationship Obama had with a man who had acted out against the government when Obama was 6 years old, he had reformed himself and became a respected citizen. Based on Fox's false stories people were yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" at McCain rallies, that's how dangerous Fox and Palin are!

And yes, Obama's official birth certificate has been available since he ran, it was Fox's lies again who made people question this.

GinaM said...

"Man child" business is another way that the Teabaggers refer to President Obama as a "boy"....African American people know exactly what they mean when they say this. Rush Limpballs is the first person to call President Obama this.

GinaM said...

Here's a link to a picture of Gino...

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/12/21/bristol-new-man-new-baby/

I am not Star Jones said...

facts vs. fiction. also the willingness to conflate your opinion with representing all of the 'left' is funny!

this Palin fan refuses to acknowledge that while the man child is doing his job as President, Palin doing reality shows and tweeting.

and by the time 2012 rolls around she'll be doing that.

Ha.

Anonymous said...

Interesting.

My counter to "Palin is fit to be POTUS" focuses less on babygate, more on her judgment and the financial scandals which surround her and the people she appoints. Babygate gets attention, but too many people just think it is tin-hat material. More effective to argue on other, more substantial issues.

tomandlou said...

Its obvious this guy has done no appreciable fact checking .It's been my experience that the majority of her people have not looked into her performance.Without any background checks she is still arrogant,self serving and most definitely someone who cannot accept criticism.Not to mention very crude.

AKRNC said...

When he said that Palin had never been criticized prior to 2008, I would have sent him the material gathered in her vetting for Governor. I don't know anyone can read that and not see how unfit she is both in her past offices and especially in her ability to hold future office.

Here's the link with a lot of great reading, it's long but easy to get through.

http://mudflats.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/palin-2006-vetting.pdf

lexcade said...

i can clean fish. does that mean i'm presidential material?

Ginger said...

To: Anon 9:08 PM

So, you think Blade should focus more on her judgement and financial scandals and less on Babygate? I find that very interesting in light of two Babygate blogs that have shut down. One we know was threatened and the other, quietly went away.

It is laughable to think anyone in Alaska will hold her accountable for the misdeeds you discuss. Try as you might to mislead people from Babygate, it won't work. There are a lot of us who think, "that is the key!"

Anonymous said...

I've got news for you, Ginger, there are many people in Alaska who do indeed hold Palin accountable. Many do not take lightly the fact that she resigned her elected position as Governor in the middle of her term on very lame reasoning. Truth is, most were glad to see her go, but it is still a point that she should never hold public office again.

Babygate is but one issue surrounding Palin that needs to see the light of day. Thankfully, there are lots of people on the ball who are bringing the truth out on the many bizarre issues surrounding this woman.

Don't discuss Alaskans. We are not as stupid as Palin makes us look.

Ginger said...

To: Anon 7:22 PM

Thank you for the refreshing news that Palin will be held accountable for her actions! I didn't mean to disparage Alaskans. Nor, in any way, was I challenging your/their intellect.

My issue is mostly with Gov. Sean Parnell who still seems to keep most of Sarah's staff on his payroll. How soon do you think he will release the rest of the e-mails? He was just re-elected and seems to go along with all the letters asking for extensions on everything. Including Dairy Gate!

Your post brings me hope, but its been two years. How much longer do we have to wait?

KaJo said...

"PS What's the "man child" stuff? December 21, 2010 6:10 PM"

GinaM is right, but you don't really have to be an AA to know what was meant by the term -- it should be obvious that it's intended to publicly humiliate an educated, urbane, highly intelligent man.

I'd bet that the man we're talking about has enough self-awareness, self-confidence, familial support, and high intelligence that such disparaging insults by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and anklebiters like Blade's e-mail correspondent bother President Obama about as much as Sarah Palin does -- which is to say, not at all, judging from the Pres's response to George Stephanopoulos and Barbara Walters, who both asked impertinent questions of him concerning Palin (both ABC interviews, what a "coincidence").

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63800B20100409

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-barbara-walters-sarah-palin/story?id=12228348

Anonymous said...

Man Child in the Promised Land was the title of a semi-autobiographical novel by Claude Brown published in the mid 1960's. It was about a black man who grew up in Harlem,NYC in the 1940's-50's with great economic and personal struggles -- tough place and tough times. It was an important novel and we read it in school when I was growing up.

Rush is a poisonous pseudo-intellectual. He takes little pieces of information out of context and tries to use them to create fear and division. Certainly, for a white person to call a black man a "man child" is an attempt to insult and incite -- but these insult hurlers are so f-ing ignorant, that their attempts to hurt are pathetic. Moreover, Barack Obama's personal history is very different from Claude Brown's. They are different people-- and using this term is indeed a racist insult-- but it falls on deaf ears. The tireless efforts of our president will not be stifled by these sadly delusional dullards.

Conscious at last